Favorite command after a clean Mandriva Install...
Par liberforce le mercredi 26 mars 2008, 00:48 - Computers / Informatique - Lien permanent
urpme -a mono
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Par liberforce le mercredi 26 mars 2008, 00:48 - Computers / Informatique - Lien permanent
urpme -a mono
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What's wrong with our mono package?
Package is ok, but mono is wrong itself
For me it's :
urpme beagle codeina
In fact, I do this because I just feel that all that Mono stuff eats too much of my RAM. Mono is useful for people using beagle, f-spot, tomboy, or banshee, which are the main mono apps that come to my mind. However, I don't need beagle, because I know where I store my files. To show my photos, Eye Of GNOME just does a better job for me than f-spot, because I'm too lazy to carefully tag them. I don't need Tomboy, the most similar app I use is gTodo, and even that way I often forget to open it... To replace banshee, rhythmbox works fairly good enough for me.
All this not to tell that Mono stinks, or is a patented curse (let's pretend I just don't care). This post is just to tell that having beagle, f-spot on a Mandriva Linux One CD (GNOME version, I didn't test the KDE one) just doesn't fit my meeds. And that if we want more mono apps, we shouldn't pretend that the minimum amount of RAM required to use Mandriva Linux One is 256MB. In fact my work laptop has 256MB of RAM, and with beagle loaded at startup for f-spot, opening a single image on One 2008.1 RC2 leaves my machine in an almost unusable state, as it uses much more memory than a good old C equivalent (EOG).
I'm a low-memory machines friend. And seeing so much memory wasted for, in my own opinion, zero benefit, just disturbs me... Mono apps take too much memory for me (even on my 512MB desktop), that's why I remove it after an install: it's the fastest way to get rid of all the mono apps.
About the live CDs themselves, they are slow enough. We shouldn't try to make them slower with mono bling. And we shouldn't forget these facts:
- A fast live CD gives that feeling that the distro is fast.
- A slow live CD just gives the feeling the distro is a snail.
- The live CD is the recommended way to test Mandriva Linux for
newcommers.
Let's find the right compromise between features and memory consumption. For me, however, until I find THE killer app written in Mono, the aforementionned command will remain my best friend...Kor me it is removing unused locales : urpme locales-da locales-it etc.
And making Konqueror the default browser ;-)
FYI, the Kde One CD doesn't carry any mono app.
And it is really faster to boot than Gnome One.
Time to switch ;-)
I don't see anything "wrong" with a project that paves the way for experienced .net developers to develop for *nix platforms. However I'll agree that mono can better be replaced with support for a few more locales on the live cd.
Oh give me a break, since when *.dll and *.exe is a native *nix format ? Can't you see that Novell is trying to infect the *nix world with Microsoft desease ?
Exactly what I do too :-)
I really don't understand the point in imposing something like mono even on a live CD. It's the same with the spacial view in nautilus. They probably want to make the users miserable... :-(
Honestyly, there is not many good picture managers for GNOME, so f-spot has no competitors(gthumb is lacking few features), but beagle is just crap. i wonder why Mdv didn't switch to pinot, which is c++/gtk app using dbus for indexing etc. Lack of vision.